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Thursday, October 17, 2013
INDIA GRIFFIN SPEAKS TO MEMBERS AT LOCAL 409
India Griffin and other Mike McCarron supporters were present. India made a statement against the supervision of the SWRCC. After she finished, Mike Draper demanded that she answer some questions from him. Draper was belligerent towards India and was yelling at her. She attempted to answer his questions, but when he would not stop yelling she walked out. Draper continued to yell at her and then demanded that her statement be stricken from the record. Yet another instance of the UBC silencing members and keeping the truth from being heard.
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23 comments:
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That little piggy Draper will do anything Doug McCarron wants him to do, in fact he would probably go as far as to kill his first born for Dougy boy. A real scumbag!
ReplyDeleteAmen! Mike Draper professes to be a good Mormon. I know some good Mormons and Mike Draper ain't one of them! I think they would call him a Jack Mormon. He lies and cheats and steals. That's not like the Mormons I know!!
DeleteWhen we compare the present life of man on earth with that time of which we have no knowledge, it seems to me like the swift flight of a single sparrow through the banqueting hall where you are sitting at dinner on a winter's day. In the midst there is a comforting fire to warm the hall; outside, the storms of winter rain or snow are raging. This sparrow flies swiftly in through one door of the hall, and out through another. While he is inside, he is safe from the winter storms; but after a few moments of comfort, he vanishes from sight into the wintry world from which he came.
DeleteEven so, man appears on earth for a little while; but of what went before this life or of what follows, we know nothing.
God bless you Mike McCarron as you vanish into your winter’s storm.
I like this comment From Pamela Connor to Buffalo Afl-cio Labor Council
ReplyDeleteNice job Pamela Connor!!
Now let's work on getting Doug McCarron and his cronies out of the UBC and Mike McCarron elected in 2015. If he's elected he will get the Carpenter's union back with the AFL-CIO. Maybe someone can ask the AFL-CIO for donations. Remember that General President Doug McCarron said that he has $680 million behind him and that "Mike ain't got shit and if you ain't got shit then there ain't no litigation." How is that for arrogance! This guy is evil and he cares nothing for the brotherhood. The supervision hearing today was a joke. If you haven't already seen it, look at how Mike Draper treated India Griffin at the hearing. She had the nerve to say good things about Mike. The hearing was full of hand picked men that sold their souls to the UBC. It's such an abuse of power that it's sickening. They have always gotten away with it because no one can afford to fight them. Mike McCarron needs some heavy donors. He won't let you down. Please check out
www.standwithmike.org. and Support
ReplyDeleteThe net worth she refers to, ie: the SWRCC's bottom line, which she states was amassed by Mike McCarron, ARE THE STOLEN FUNDS of the local's which were victims of the forced trickery & deceit, payoffs and cushy relocations which the UBC utilized that are the actions of the conventions post the Harrington Chao decision. WHERETHE F'K WAS MIKE MCCARRON THROUGH ALL OF THIS!!!!
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People should read this by Brother Jim Amico! He came to Las Vegas and had his eyes opened. Let's see how long his comment stays up before it gets deleted!
ReplyDeleteJim Amico
I came to this hearing expecting something completely different. None of what I read on this FB page is even close to accurate. The hearing board was polite and accommodating. I heard several members speak from Colorado, New Mexico, Cal and Nevada. Since I missed the first day, I got filled in by several rank and file members hanging around.
They (the rank and file) all told me that on day one Mike McCarron had only one person get up in support, she said a lot of statements that didn't match the evidence presented. When it was time to get cross examined, which I understand both side get to ask questions, she refused. Ok... I guess anybody can hit and run. But I was also told that Mike was driving in circles around the building while this was happening. I don't know if that's true but Not even in the hearing room to question all of Drapers evidence?
So day two, for my own eyes, I asked if I could see the evidence presented on the day I missed. They pointed me to these huge binders sitting on shelves for members to see. I reviewed this uninterrupted for nearly a hour and I was in SHOCK! One Las Vegas business agent even brought me a cup of coffee and thanked me for my travels. So I never felt shut down or intimidated.
Mike... This evidence don't look good buddy. You refuse to stand up and tell your story in front of Brothers that have taken time off of work and drove here to watch you fight these allegations. This isn't a kangaroo court. I see guys in Carhartts, Red Wings and bandanas, covered in dust, honestly waiting to hear your side. But the less those guys hear from you, the madder they get.
Day 2 ONE retired carpenter got up and spoke on your behalf. He seemed confused and disorientated. I felt bad for him. Mike Draper asked him questions but was very polite. The hearing was open for 13 hours. So that's two people total on your behalf and not one person answered to all of those binders of information. On the other hand several rank and file working carpenters got up and talked as long as they wanted. But they were more on the side of international.
I understand, you may be holding back for some other court. But For the sake of the Brotherhood, please at least get up there and say it's not true. I drove 250 miles to support you and you don't even show up? Again, that is some pretty damning evidence and I plan to review more this morning.
I don't know who you are, but you drank the Kool-Aid! Just keep reading the information the UBC is feeding you. India did the research. The UBC paid for those guys to show up, house them and feed them. Forty full time rep's. India states that Mike never knew you. The UBC wanted Mike to testify so they could cross examine him. Once again, Mike's too smart for Draper. The way India was treated was deplorable. You're a shill and you're disgusting! You are participating in the "attempted" character assignation of the best the union has to offer. Concerning your statement that Mike Draper was polite, Mike Draper is an obese little S.O.B. who doesn't have the slightest idea how to be polite.
DeleteExcuse me! He does know how to be polite when he has his nose up Doug's ass!
Deleteyer the shill! If Mike is right, he shouldnt be scared to stand up tell his story and answer questions And why are so many comments on his facebook that arent favoring him deleted? wheres the democracy there?
DeleteWhy did they not let Mike speak at the August 16th1506 meeting? When anyone tries to tell the truth they shut them down. India tried to speak at the 409 meeting and she was silenced by President Mark Johnson. If they are telling the truth why are they shutting these people down? They would not let anyone take cell phones in the supervision hearing because of the damaging video's put on Mike's Facebook page. You can't lie with videos. RE: "Sandy's not my girlfriend!" "I'm no longer a carpenter" " Yes I am drawing my pension" " I only make $390,000" "If you retire in Southern California and move to Northern California, you can collect your pension all you want and still work" (HUH?) And Doug, you're the chairman of the pension fund and you don't even know the rules? He called Mike a liar three times when it was Doug who was lying! Try to take those statements back now, Doug! You're an asshole!
DeleteWhat does this have to do with Mike not speaking?! If he is in the right he shld be brave enuf to stand up and answer questions. He is like a criminal defendant pleading the fifth! And if hes too skeered to stand up why would anyone want him as a leader?
DeleteYou're a shill, Jim Amico. You started your Facebook page on October 3rd and have no friends. Give me a break! You're pathetic!
Deletei'm not Jim. Instead of having your you know what you know where with mike, why doesnt he stand up and speak? Look up with word coward. youll see mike.
DeleteJim Amico, You have to be kidding right? I do not want to insult you but you cannot be this stupid. please say your post was a joke. You are making us brotherhood members look uneducated. I am speaking to whoever is the person replying sticking up for Doug as well. Go to school guys, pick up a book, research what you are saying before you reply. And at the least spell check or have someone who is smarter than you proof read your spelling and grammar, which from the looks of it would be most anyone over the age of 11. I have a sneaking suspicion they are Doug's cronies or Doug's "Fluffers" (Especially those ingrates Mike Draper, Dan MacDonald and John DeCarlo, I don't know why but just hearing and seeing those pipsqueaks makes me sick to my stomach. Dan, Draper, DeCarlo & Doug you are disgusting human beings inside and out. Suicide is a very viable option for you buddy's.) as I like to refer to them as. They want to make it look like Doug has supporters, when in reality he does not. Even if you do not agree with Mike McCarron, I am pretty damn sure you still think Doug McCarron is a fucktard piece of shit! Why would Mike McCarron testify or even go to that joke of a hearing? They have never allowed him tell his side without cutting him off, or making some bullshit rules or comments. It's not a court it's a pretend court, a kiddie court. Just wait until REAL court! Big Boy court! That will be fun to watch. Doug will not be able to stop Mike there and EVERYONE will see what Doug and his fluffers are all about. Doug your reign of terror is coming to an end! Your freedom is going to come to an abrupt end as well you criminal lying shit bag.
DeleteHey Mr. Fluffer why don't you stop fluffing Mike and get him to step up and say his piece? why is he such a coward? and suggesting suicide is all we need to hear from you fluff man
DeleteI want to add that Brother Jim posted this on Mike's facebook and the ms hit and run lady is india!
ReplyDeletems hit and run lady, WTF?
DeleteFaceBook, the UBCJA Kangaroo Court wherein all members are guilty because the Commie's running this Criminal Racketeering enterprise, whether at the International level or the District Council level, or the Locals say you are.
ReplyDeleteYou have got to be kidding! Another in a long line of deluded fools incapable of independent thought, plan or action. You may as well say have the alleged trial via Twitter following your rationale or lack thereof.
Mike McCarron has to take this outside of the UBCJA rigged trial system. Ole Dole is a criminal in a finely tailored suit and he is every bit as dangerous as a common hood out on the street peddling dope or meth or whatever the preferred drug of choice is these days.
Doug & his cohorts at the UBC International are long over due for the grand jury & criminal indictments and everyone knows it, inclusive of the Fed's, the band of criminal racketeers (USAO, DOL, DOJ, crooked Judges which Dougs pays off etc.)
You need to re-take basic high school level civics & history classes so you can get up to speed on how the country was founded & by whom, learn what principles the founding fathers stood for and maybe then we can get you into the U.S. Constitution, the bill of Rights, the Amendments and then you can start on the NLRA so you can learn what rights the Congress (not Doug McCarron) granted to the rank & file working man or woman in these United States.
Until that time. you should keep your comments to youself.
Why won't mike stand up tell his story and answer questions???? If he cant do that hes too much of a coward to be a leader for anyone
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